Iran Darroudi
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Part 01
Mrs. Iran Darroudi. Part One
Childhood
I was born in Mashhad on Sep. 2, 1936 at 8 p.m.
My mother’s family were of the Caucasian traders; they lived in Badkoubeh (a coastal town) and migrated to Iran when my mother was 3.
My father was of a famous family of traders in Khorasan (a province at east of Iran).
When my father was a young son, he was sent to Moscow on behalf of a steward to study architecture.
When my father was at recent years of his life, I found out that he had passed the courses at Moscow Conservatory.
He didn’t talk about it at all but I knew he loved music.
My father was an architect and my mother was a housewife;
she played the piano and taught me my first piano lesson.
My father was a painting collector so he loved painting. I saw the paintings since I was born.
As my father loved painting, I tried to catch his attention so he would love me and pay attention to me.
Therefore, I was interested in painting and I wished to be a painter to be loved and supported by my father.
I grew up in a house where even the plates, engraved with royal arm, were belonged to the Tsar Era.
I mean, my father had bought all the dishes or even the furniture during the time he was in Russia – he had a good special taste.
Now, I believe that my father was a painter who had never painted
but the existence of colors, volumes and proper forms were impo rtant in his view.
I always wished my father accepted me as a painter.
Coming back from Mexico, I asked him about his idea about painting.
He answered me: “I love the painter more than the painting.”
It was a nice great speech for me because I knew how much he loved the painting.
When I was one, my mother took me and my sister from Iran to Germany to stay with our father;
he owned a trading house in Germany – it was 1937 and 4 years after Hitler had rose to power in Germany.
I was severely sick when we were travelling by the ship so I cried a lot.
The Captain told my mother: “if your daughter has a contagious disease, I have to throw her into the sea because I am responsible for the others’ health.”
Fortunately, I stopped crying because of catching a cold and the problem of my sore throat.
That was a start for me to be strong to survive.
In Germany, they took me to a hospital – I was there for one year.
They informed that I suffered from malnutrition because of lack of my mother breast milk.
We were in Germany for 2 years. The war started.
One year after, the foreigners’ food quota was blocked.
My father found out about the serious threat for us and knew that there was no visa on behalf of any embassies.
Immediately, he decided to come back Iran at that night.
He ignored the house and the trading house in Germany and packed the luggage so fast.
We got on the livestock train, full of people, cows and sheep – there was no space even for standing. People pushed each other.
I remember that me and my sister were thirsty but we had no water.
My father gave someone his gemmed ashtray to take some water for us.
It was a better situation when we reached Turkey.
My parent’s family sent us some money and a car.
We were in a company with a group of the Jewish who had escaped from Germany; we had reached Iran together with them.
Getting off the car, my father did homage to kiss the Iran’s land and said: “I won’t stay in any other country rather than Iran.”
Although he knew German and Russian and he was a tradesman,
he decided to stay in Iran – he had left his trading house in Germany and never left Iran.
Soon after we reached Iran, Russia bombarded Mashhad (capital of Khorasan Province).
The Russian soldiers arrested German soldiers and took them to Siberia on foot; they didn’t let the German soldiers get on the train.
Me and my sister couldn’t speak in Persian, so, my father became worried
and decided not to stay in the city till we could learn Persian.
At a night, we went to Shandiz (a city in Khorasan Province) but we weren’t allowed to be seen by the villagers.
My mother was a young, beautiful, blonde woman so they could become suspicious whether we were German or not.
We stayed at home during the days and came out during the nights.
This is the beginning of my life.
There was a cemetery near our house on one side and a raging river on another side.
By the sunset, me and my sister ran out of the house to find a new dead buried…
Really surprising! We went to the mortuary to see why they shroud the dead.
I was only 5 and it was amazing for me.
My childhood memory has been formed during the time when a gardener woman could find our asylum – an abnormal world for me forming my memories.
My mother didn’t ask anybody for help and I was learning Persian little by little.
That woman told me about the genii and the grave;
she told me about the genii having hoofs running on that river so the loud sound was heard.
She was superstitious and also believed in the nonsenses she said.
Whenever I hear the word “washer of the dead”, my body shakes because of fear.
By her false stories, I was known about the concepts of violence, cruelty, and injustice.
That woman would come to our house till we left Shandiz and came back to Mashhad.
Once, she cooked us some food and my mother didn’t understand about the catastrophic effect she had on me.
Still, in this age I am, I cannot stay in darkness and all the lights are on in my house during the night.
That bad memories were the beginning of my surreal world.
After the war, I became a silent child; I couldn’t talk anymore to communicate with the people around.
Those much fear caused me the mental retardation;
those much fear of God or of the genii was out of a child’s brain capacity to bear.
I was changed to a non-talking child who just could understand everything but couldn’t talk.
I could understand the kindness, specially. I could understand how badly the relatives treated me;
whenever they wanted to annoy my mother, they told her annoying words about me e.g. “Iran is an ugly girl!”
Based on my photos, I wasn’t an ugly child – a cute innocent child, holding her doll.
Those kinds of bad, nonsense words are really threatening for a child mental health.
But those are of my childhood memories. Till third grade of primary school, I couldn’t read anything.
My father asked my elder brother to teach me Persian.
Once, my brother asked me about the spelling of a simple word but I only looked at him instead of answering.
At that time, we would write with inkwell. He hit my hand with the stone inkpot
and told my father: “this girl can learn nothing!” And he didn’t continue teaching me.
We had a servant at home, called “Haji.” He took us to the school.
Also, he didn’t accept to take me to the school anymore.
My father asked him about the reason and he answered: “being with this girl would discredit me!”
My father asked: “what a discredit you mean?!” “she is dumb and understands nothing!”,
he said, “she gave a coin to the owner of a stationary to buy his shop!”
I understood everything, I was at grade 1 of primary school. What did he mean by a dumb girl?! What did he mean by discredit?!
Haji told to the owner of the stationary: “let this child buy whatever she wants. I’ll tell her father to bring money for you.”
It was surprising that I didn’t try to progress. Haji called me “monkey”!
I wish I could tell him that whatever roots in childhood, would grow up and never leave the person.
I still do not know the value of money, I do not know the computing and I want everything though I haven’t enough money for that.
That was my tragic childhood. Then, we migrated to Tehran.
I spoke in a strong accent of Khorasani. Whenever I started talking in the class, the students burst into laughter.
When I entered any classes at primary and high school, they started to laugh and there were lack of discipline in the class.
Once, I wore ill-matched shoes, one black and one brown!
My classmates asked me why I wore ill-matched shoes. At that time,
I could find out the secret of hearts.
Once, the principal told my father: “it is better that a private teacher teaches your daughter. Her actions make the class for lack of discipline.”
Beside such a problem, I caught trachoma grade 3. The school inspector understood that I was going blind!
I, as a dumb child, went to the doctor alone. I could see nothing, blind!
By treatment, I could see again and I knew the value of sight – a great blessing!
My father did his best to make me become interested in painting.
He presented me an album of famous paintings. He sat beside me to turn the pages of the album to show me the paintings;
I couldn’t distinguish the colors and every photo was black and white. When I went to visit the Louvre, I knew the paintings.
My father didn’t tell me the names of painters.
Instead, he explained me the concept of the paintings and told me a story about each of them.
That album is still the most important book I ever had.
I became interested in painting by that book and the paintings of great Russian painters that we had at home.
That was my childhood story until grade 3 at primary school – when I caught trachoma.
Once I was at grade 4, I heard my father told my mother: “don’t worry for Iran for every person would have a unique destiny.” My father consoled my mother!
I became angry because they didn’t understand that I can understand everything better than the others.
I could play chess. I cried because of the words of my father but his sentence had make my life:
don’t worry for her for every person would have a unique destiny!
They behaved really badly to tell such words to each other about a child, dumb and absent-minded.
My father turned the pages of that album and I imagined the story.
Whenever my father’s family wanted to annoy my mother, they told my mother something about me – that was the annoying matter of my life.
Once I heard that they told her: “we don’t curse you because you are cursed having a daughter like Iran!”
Imagine how does a child feel when s/he hears such a word. Instead, I could improve my senses.
My silence leads to my senses improvement.
Now, I can understand why some people observe silence fast; that is because their other senses would be improved.
I was the top student from grade 4 at primary school until I got my diploma.
At the end of school year, they didn’t let me to stay on the stage with other students;
instead, they made me sit down with the parents as the invitee.
My wise pretty sister was also the top student. To encourage my sister, the school teachers gave her a bunch of flower at the end of school year festival.
She came down the stage and gave me the flowers. So, my sister was my patron – my dearest in whole my life.
A patron, a sister, and a friend. We completed each other in different ways; she was a ping to my pong.
She was responsible for thinking, computing and earning living – and I was thinking about my dreams.
When I was 10, my sister encouraged me to go to the painting class because she has understood that I loved painting.
My parents disagreed because of my private classes and lots of lessons for school.
They thought that I couldn’t manage those many classes beside the painting class.
My sister supported me and said: “I give you enough money for the painting class. I will also buy you the paints.
You can tell me whatever you need. Be sure that I will help you.”
She was only three years elder than me. She really supported me and three years later, I took home a painting.
Although my father knew well that I painted the painting, he asked me: “who’s painted? Not bad. I will buy it for 100 Toman!”
Comparing with the current value of money in Iran, 100 Toman equaled 100 million Toman (many million dollars).
He also bought a frame for my painting. He approved my painting – the first step.
Little by little, I could assert myself. He pretended not know about my painting classes but he tried to support me.
Once I came back Iran from Mexico, I suggested my father to take one of my best painting instead of the first painting I had given to him.
He didn’t accept and said: “I like painter more than the painting.”
By such a sentence, he wished to show me his love toward me.
I was vague in whether my father accepted me as a painter or not – it was vague for me till the last time before his death.
At that time, he told me: “come closer to me; I want to kiss your eyes for you become a painter.”
He would visit my painting exhibitions without letting me know.
After visiting, he came home and told me: “that was a great painting. Know its value!” but he never asked me who the painter is.
I wondered why it was so difficult for him to express the feeling. My father taught me strictness.
Whatever I know is taught by my mother and my father. The family plays an important role in any person’s life.
My soul had been scarred for that tragic period of my life but I owe to those soul scars because it made my life.
I knew the nature during the time I passed at the cemetery near our house in Shandiz Village.
The school period and the time I became blind were also important periods for me. My father’s family ignored me.
I decided to continue my way by fighting.
First, I forgave those persons who had treated me badly.
Then, I believe that “love” is the most effective.
So, I decided to love those who annoyed me to attract them via my kindness toward them.
I owe my life to them because it was at that tragic time
when I could determine my way of life to make it
Part 02
Mrs. Iran Darroudi. Part Two
Immigration and University
A declamation by Mrs. Iran Darroudi:
If we consider the Death as another Birth, my hands would choose painting and bear the tolerance of Love, bitterly but elegantly.
I wish to imagine the fears and joys of the life via another Birth.
I wish my hands reveal the secret of the Love inherited in my Life.
I wish to engrave this sentence on my grave that “the painters come to birth blind because they see everything by their insight of their heart.”
I had a dress of Love, my bridal veil was woven by the Sky and my wedding was held by the History, eternally.
I confess that I was afraid of starting to paint; a kind of fear mixing with fascination and illusion.
By painting, I could discover the deep darkness and imagine to fly high through the Galaxy.
I lived for the sake of painting and could come along with the pains, griefs, joys and wishes of life by painting.
I bow to the painting and let it pass through my soul as a light Death.
Painting is my beginning and my end.
I was the founder of Modern Art in Iran.
I held the first formal exhibition in Iran;
there were catalogue, sale list, ticket seller, panel and biography for that exhibition.
One of my friends was one of the staff at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Protocol Affairs Department;
I gave her my invitation cards and she delivered them at the Ministry. The invitees arrived, dressed formally.
I was surprised! Ambassador of England and ambassador of France were some of the guests.
It was a great opening at Cultural Hall where is one of the Roodaki Halls, now.
I had a great destiny.
I could earn 28000 Toman by holding that exhibition of my paintings.
I could pay myself for travelling to France in 1954.
My sister had gone to France 3 years before I go; she was at conservatory.
My sister presence was a great support for me, as usual. She took me to the Beaux-Arts de Paris, National High School of Fine Arts.
There was a long process to enroll as the student – one-year exams.
To do so, I enrolled at Normal School of Music at Paris to pass the exams to get applied at Beaux-Arts de Paris.
I studied there for 4 years and I could get the conservatory diploma if I studied for one year more.
I was at Paris Conservatory till I was 27.
I lived with a pianist who was also my piano instructor.
My first piano instructor was Mrs. Gewerita in Mashhad and my last piano instructor in Iran was Basil RIP.
<i>Documentary by Mastane Mohajer named “Iran Darroudi” </i>
I make Mr. Abolghasem Saeedi’s acquaintance at Beaux-Arts de Paris;
he is a great man who helped me to stand the immoral atmosphere at Beaux-Arts de Paris
He supported me against the immorality at Beaux-Arts de Paris as I was a naïve, unsophisticated Iranian girl!
Wherever I went to rent a room, I couldn’t find one because they understood that I was student at Beaux-Arts de Paris.
I studied at Beaux-Arts de Paris for 5 years. I learnt French too slowly but deeply.
As I wanted to study History of Art at École du Louvre, I needed to learn French deeply to know about their culture.
<i>photos of France, Iran Darroudi and Master Andre Deldelebio</i>
<i>Iran Darroudi and Master Chaplin Midi at Beaux-Arts de Paris School</i>
<i> “Iran Darroudi, The Painter of Ethereal Moments” a documentary directed by Bahman Maghsoodloo (a film scholar, critic, author and independent film producer/director) </i>
There is a nice story about how I could make Jean Maurice Eugène Clément Coctea’s acquaintance (French poet, playwright, novelist, designer, filmmaker, visual artist and critic).
First, let me tell you the story about how I could make André Malraux’s acquaintance (French author, critic and politician).
I stayed at the hotel for three months, waiting for a meeting for him
arranged by his friend Leon coming to Iran, André Malraux went to Isfahan to live with Leon.
Before visiting him, I studied all the books he had written
because I wanted to be well-informed about any special thing he might say and not to be ashamed.
I didn’t know he could learn Persian.
While visiting, he told me in Persian: “Thanks for coming. I hope you weren’t in trouble to come here!”
I was shocked and asked him: “You know Persian?”
“Not much,” he said, “you are from a great Land, with cultured and civilized people.”
I asked him a question: “what’s your idea about the Contemporary Art?”
“the Art would lapse till the end of the third millennium. The human being cannot live without art. Art is his identity,” he answered.
I remember an amazing remembrance from Jean Cocteau.
When I lived in Brussels, Mr. Hedayati – Iranian ambassador – asked me to go to his office.
He had to go to do something very important and he couldn’t attend in a party
which André Malraux was also invited. He asked me to attend in place of him.
On the spot, I accepted and seized the invitation card on his desk.
At that time, I was student in Brussels and Jean Cocteau lived in …..
When I could visit him walking among other people, I was really surprised
because I thought that the artists should be distinct from other people but he wasn’t; a normal slim man.
I approached him and asked: “you know me?” “Should I?” he said. “Of course,” I said.
“why? Who are you?” he asked. I started to tell him a short story to introduce myself:
“a lamb grew up among a flock of sheep. Once, the lamb saw a lion or a panther.
At that time, she found out that she was not the same as them. She believed that she was like that lion or panther.”
I told him: “You should know that I am the same as you.” He was astonished.
I continued: “I come from my ancestor’s land and my name is Iran. You just need to remember that.”
He Said “we are always looking for our moon”
I asked him: “what happened if a panther fall off the mountain?”
“that is the thing he wanted!” he answered me. It was a very effective sentence for me.
I was 32 at that time. It was interesting for him to visit a self-assertive person like me.
Having finished the education in France, I came back Iran.
Then, I travelled to Belgium and changed my course.
Afterward, I travelled to America and then to France.
Queen of Iran was my neighbor in Paris. She and her mother often came to my house.
To make my family satisfied, I gave my paintings to a passenger travelled to Iran. My family made a frame for my paintings to hang.
Once, the Queen visited my museum and said: “I always wished to visit one of your exhibitions.”
I answered her: “here is not my museum but the Museum of Iran Contemporary Arts.
My works should be compared with other painters’ works – all the artists together.
My works would be seen in case they are comparable with others.”
Coming back to America, I found out it was hard to earn enough only by being a journalist.
I couldn’t work in a place where there were no art.
I produced a program about Art in Iran. It was broadcasted in Iran named “The Everlasting Roots of Art in Iran”.
My painter friend, Marcos Grigorian (Iranian-Armenian and American artist and gallery owner) was familiar with my husband Parviz.
He lived in 53th Street in New York. I saw Parviz for the first time at Marcos’s house in a party.
For the second time, It was Valentine’s Day and I called Marcos to come to my house with Parviz.
Parviz came to my house with his pretty girlfriend.
She had a bunch of flower but nobody brought me flower.
I didn’t pay attention to them at all. When they left, I saw the bunch of flower left on the table.
Looking at the time, I considered that it is not too late. So I called him and said: “you’ve insulted me!”
he was shocked. “why didn’t you bring me, as a countryman, a bunch of flower?
It was a misbehavior toward me. You should do something that I can forgive you.
Then, we wouldn’t visit each other anymore.” He asked: “how?” “Come back and take the bunch of flower your girlfriend left here”, I said.
I put the flower outside the door and left the door open.
As he arrived, I didn’t let him say something.
Instead, I told him: “I have a request. Please accept that.”
“Ok, let me know,” he said. I said: “do me a favor and marry me! So, I can grow better and faster.”
He was surprised whether I was kidding. We’ve met each other only twice and we didn’t know even the first name of each other.
He asked: “how much should I pay for wedding?” “for some of my friends it was only $4. It would be useful for you!” I answered.
“what do you do here in New York?” I replied: “I am a famous painter and held some exhibitions here. I also earn some in Iran.”
But I didn’t ask him about his income.
He accepted to marry me. I asked him to give blood test in the next morning.
After that, we bought ring for each other.
I called Dr. Ehsan Yarshater (Iranian historian and linguist) and he gave me the address of Dr. Birjandi;
I explained him about my decision for marriage. He told me that I was encountered my destiny.
He accepted to pay for wedding ceremony and suggested to hold it at his house.
I told him that I don’t know about the amount of money my husband would have. It wasn’t necessary for me to have a wedding ceremony.
I always take instant decisions and also take the responsibility for the outcomes.
On that day, we went to eat out for dinner. I had $20 and I was ready to pay for it in case he didn’t have enough money.
I am always ready to encounter unpredicted situations.
<i>Iran Darroudi and her husband Parviz Moghadasi with David Rockefeller (American philanthropist) </i>
I do love cinema and television activities.
When I was at TV for the first time, I thought about nothing in the world.
It was like the four seasons in painting – so exciting!
After my marriage, I wrote a letter to Mr. Ghaffari – deputy of Iran Broadcasting –
and let him know that me and my husband were qualified in broadcasting.
He accepted to employ us.
I was 30 when we came back Iran from America, immediately after our marriage.
The day after I arrived Iran, I was at TV at 8 a.m.
I was always at night shifts.
I produced and directed best programs for National Broadcasting
e.g. a complete archive about Iranian artists at television – like the program you made. But Mr. Sadegh Ghotbzade (Former Foreign Affairs Minister of Iran) ordered to remove that top archive.
I was also at mobile TV units. We visited the celebrities in art, culture, linguistics, painting and poetry.
I produced 80 documentaries about Iranian and foreign painters.
There was a friendly atmosphere at work.
We had a big house suitable for night parties with our friends e.g. Mr. Parviz Kimiaee (Iranian film director, screenwriter, editor).
We were in a same part with him and supported him whenever he made a new film.
Another of my friends was Mr. Bijan Mofid (influential Iranian playwright and stage director).
Sometimes, he came to our home with all his trainees and slept for the night, about 12 persons.
A sign of a close friendly relationship.
I helped my co-workers to sell their works e.g. I sold the work for Ardeshir Mohases (Iranian illustrator, satirist, cartoonist and painter) at Iran-America Association.
I am a good seller for my colleagues, not for myself.
<i>The Exhibition for Iran Darroudi at Paris Museum with the presence of Iran Ambassador </i>
I was influential in directing and producing. I also know every technique in Cinema.
I was active in montage, editing and mobile units.
Filming is the only thing I don’t know about.
There was a design of experiment based on Broadcasting in France; our broadcast was based on the broadcast in France.
My profile was the best in view of directing and technical affairs.
In a program, I was responsible to record a film which the location was at a far place in the town.
I didn’t accept. The manager of project told me bad words in an awful way.
Immediately, I requested for resign.
Normally, it took a week to accept such a request because of bureaucratic process but my request of resign was approved in a day!
Many of them hated me, my enemies! There are many of them now.
My enemies helped me to grow but they could never stop me.
After resignation, I held an open space super exhibition at Tehran Goethe Institute for 3 weeks.
At that time, my books about painting were published.
Then, I travelled to France and stayed there for 9 months;
I held 3 exhibitions in France. One of them was held at Drouant Gallery.
About 18 years, it was a dream and wish for me to hold an exhibition at Drouant Gallery.
My next exhibitions were held at Zurich and Belgium.
I was full-time and knew that I couldn’t come back to start working at television.
Then, my hands were painful because of a problem.
So I wrote the book “In the Distance of Two Dots”.
When I lost Parviz, I had a surgery because of cancer so I had to stay in France for 3 years.
After Parviz’s death, For 11 years I didn’t go to my house in Iran – whenever I came to Iran,
I went to stay at my sister’s house. Nothing has changed at my house… nothing!
Part 03
Mrs. Iran Darroudi. Part Three
Work Periods
Tear is a secret. Smile is a secret. Love is a secret.
The tears had shed at that night, was the smile of love.
I am not the story you may tell. I am not the song you may sing. I am not the sound you may here.
I am not the thing you may see. I am not the subject you know.
I am the common pain. Shout me out!
Give me your hand. Your hands are familiar with mine. I have found you too late.
I wish to talk with you like a cloud talking to the storm, like a grass talking to the …, like a rain talking to the sea,
like a bird talking to the Spring, like a tree talking to the forest.
All these are because I have known you well and my voice is familiar with yours.
Prof. Ebrahim Poordavood was one of the effective persons in my life at the time I was his student.
Any countrymen or foreigners whom I was familiar with were effective in my career life.
My sister, my father and also my kind mother were effective in my life.
Mr. Ahmad Shamloo, a prominent figure in Persian poem, was another influential person in my life by his poems.
The biggest influence on my paintings was from mysticism based in poems of Sohrevardi (Persian philosopher and founder of the Iranian school of Illuminationism),
Molana (Hanafi faqih, Islamic scholar, Maturidi theologian) and Attar (Persian poet, theoretician of Sufism).
The lights painted in my paintings are reflected the mysticism.
Many persons have directed me toward mysticism and my life was full of exceptional accidents.
I paint in ecstasy i.e. I don’t know what to paint.
I don’t know the location and even the colors I am to choose.
I let my hand choose the colors and let my unconscious choose the subject.
I live based on my unconscious.
I painted some masterpieces after my husband’s death e.g. “The Broken Sun”, “The Rebellion of Desert” and “The Sympathetic Ear”.
After my husband’s death, I decided to know about mysticism.
I choose the subject based on the size of painting.
The big size, the better for thick painting-brush. By thick painting-brush, I can finish painting sooner.
I can paint with the thinnest ones.
The interesting matter is that I don’t know how to do is to rub something while painting.
The painting you see at my back, was painted in 11 years; I cried after finishing this 3*2 painting.
I didn’t paint it on the tripod. It was a great amazing mood that nobody can experience even after using drugs!
Mr. Anvar, I don’t know painting at all because I cannot draw a chair if I am not in a special mood to do.
I should be in my own mood to paint well.
I was engaged in drawing one of my paintings which is kept at Tehran Museum of Contemporary Art – it sized 3*2.
My atelier was too small for that. I had to go to the bathroom there to see the painting in a farther distance.
At that time, a person on behalf of an American art group called me and informed me that I was invited as the winner of painter of “The Oil” paintings.
They suggested me to buy it. They wanted to take a photo of that
but I asked them not to send the photographer, instead, I would draw 30 to 40 paintings and they could choose one of them.
There was another painting named “The Red Gold” took the photography of that – whether accidentally or I let them, I don’t remember.
They printed that photo and I told them to act based on the contract.
So, I sold that painting in $1000.
It was a decisive decision and I had the right to write this sentence below:
“Iran had created the civilization around the world. Nowadays, the oil produced in Iran would support the world.”
By writing that sentence, I was fully satisfied that even by $1 million, I couldn’t gain such a satisfaction.
This is because I do love my country, IRAN.
Paintings drew by Iran Darroudi, “Persian Gulf, The Eternal” and “The Turquoise of Iran”
Being young, I was affected by Belgian painters because I had studied in Belgium for a course of time.
At 30, I was in Iran and could present my style in painting which is unique based on many prominent critics.
I don’t care much about special styles.
As I am a seeker person, I use different periods based on my viewpoints.
Thinking on Molana, Sohrevardi or Shamloo would made different styles in paintings.
Consider this verse “I put a mirror in front of your mirror to create eternity of you.” This poem would present a nice atmosphere for me.
When I worked for Keyhan Newspaper as the critic, I could know Mr. Ahmad Shamloo.
He was the top poet in 1960. Posters and photos of him were sold everywhere.
I had memorized one of his poems named “Pariya”.
He has named some of my paintings like “The Way to Grow” or “Being a Dominant” – it was at time since he had seen my series of Oil Paintings.
Mr. Yadollahi named one of them as “The Neverland”.
I asked Mr. Shamloo to write a poem for my first book published in 1974.
He played an important role in making me famous by writing that poem.
I held an exhibition in Abadan (province located in south of Iran) and my paintings were sold in a high rate, more than the amount of sale in Tehran.
The high rate of sale was the reflection of Shamloo’s Poem in my book.
I remember that it was late at night when we went to the printing house and asked them to reprint the book.
Any of the prominent figures told me that they said nothing because I could have painted them the images i.e. they know me from that time.
Before you
Many portraitists made deer from a mixture of leaves;
Or at the foot of a mountain, a herd which its shepherd is hidden in the crookedness Of the clouds and the ridge of the mountain;
Or simply and simply in the foggy forest, a hungry deer that moans.
Draw lines of similarity: sigh and iron and quicklime, smoke, lies and pain
But our silence is not because of our piety.
The silence of water can be dryness and the cry of thirst;
The silence of wheat can be hunger and the triumph of famine;
As the silence of the sun that is darkness.
But man’s silence is the absence of the world and God.
Imagine the cry! Picture my evening, In the whipping curve to the suffering line;
My neighbor is alien to hope and God;
And our sanctity that they have taken and sold in dinars and dermis.
We had all the words of the world
But we did not say any useful,
Because there was not just one word, one word in hand:
Freedom!
We did not say, you take a picture of that!
I have banished myself before the Revolution in Iran; then, I found out about the Revolution in Iran (1979).
The ice series of my paintings are related to the time after the Revolution.
I have the glory series of my paintings like “The Dominance”.
I was happy when my mother, my father, my brother and my sister were alive;
I am the only alive person of my family. These hard times were reflected in my paintings.
I do love the life so much but I am not in a healthy situation now.
Though I suffer from the severe pain, I continue painting.
But the severity is being reflected in my paintings, even in my relation with others.
I was always thankful but recently, the severity had become of my feature.
Not only because of the black color I use, but also the lines of my paint brush show and reflect my grudge of grief – the matter I didn’t know before, at all.
The severity is reflected in my normal talking that is because of the events happened for me and the pain I suffer from. Really serious!
Annually, I hold at least 50 public exhibitions in France at any gallery in 50 or 100 Euro for each painting.
Me myself took the paintings there or my friend does it for me.
I would give my paintings to any gallery owner who asks me for new paintings.
I don’t care who is that gallery owner or where that gallery locates. I had hold 62 private exhibitions.
– What do you learn from these your exhibitions?
– Holding the exhibitions would support my pride and let me connect with others whom I love.
– What is your biggest challenge as an artist?
– I wish to be painter finally! I am not now the painter I wished!
(photos) Bahman Boroojeni, Mehdi Wishkaee, Kamran Diba, Iran Darroudi, Hoveyda Baghaee, Parviz Tanavoli (Burgess Gallery, Rome)
I love the works of Faramarz Pilaram (Iranian painter and calligrapher, one of the pioneers of the Saqakhaneh school).
His lines in paintings seems to fly.
Mr. Naser Assar (contemporary Iranian introvert painte, known for Abstract painting, calligraphy, lithographs)
Mr. Manoochehr Yektaee (Iranian- American painter and poet) and Mr. Abolghasem Saeedi (Iranian painter living in Paris)
were the prominent figures influential in my career life, esp. Mr. Saeedi.
Some persons are influential when they become professor at university e.g. Mrs. Sadr;
she provided a great service to Iran’s culture. I wish all masters were like her.
Antonio Rodrigues is of those persons whom I accepted his viewpoints.
He was attended at my exhibition held in Mexico and declared: “Iran Darroudi has her unique style.
Others may mix her style with Surrealism or even Impressionism. But you should know that she has her own style which remains forever.”
When I was 30, I started to draw in Surrealism. Nobody knew about the style.
In my opinion, any work of art is surreal because Surrealism means beyond the reality.
Any creativity is beyond the reality. So, you can call any artwork as the surreal.
The common point of my works with the Surrealism is the silence evoked in my painting.
But the subjects I choose and the thought beyond them are not related to the Surrealism.
I don’t admit the Surrealism School in my life.
Sometimes, I get rid of discussing with others who believe that I am a Surreal artist. Therefore, I pretend that I am surreal.
(photos of the paintings): The Place I die. Break the Particle, Limpid as Love, The White
My goal in to reach the light. I don’t see the light as the light but as a material.
The lights I draw in my paintings are not in light color and I consider gender for them as it is in mysticism.
I prefer not to declare this matter. There is a difference in my light with the lights other painters draw.
The light I think about roots in my faith and mysticism placed in my unconscious and my sole.
I try to present my painting as an Iranian.
Time and movement are two indistinctive matters in painting.
In some, I pay attention more to the movement e.g. something is flying and you should inspire it in your painting.
I can induce the time in my writing better and easier than in painting.
Most visitors in my exhibitions declare that they can see the light in my paintings’ I bet that %90 of them do not know about mysticism.
The lights I paint roots in my heart and my sole so it is effective and presented in my paintings.
Painting is my whole entity. I am not a painter… I was being painted!
Painting is the reason of my life.
It is a difficult language which you should gain the culture to know it.
Imagine us as the Iranian. We know and understand “the carpet” because it is a part of our culture.
Poetry and literature is also roots in our culture.
If a person knows the painting, s/he would remain in ecstasy – the same feeling derived from poetry, ballet or a piece of music.
Unfortunately, painting is not supported in our country.
Whatever we have, belongs to the recent 50 years.
when I saw the painting of “Mirror Hall”, painted by Kamal-al-Molk (Iranian famous painter),
I considered that he was one of the greatest painters around the world.
Part 04
Mrs. Iran Darroudi. Part Four
Self-description
Painting is my rebellion and my tolerance to accept the destiny which provided me many tragic events and I could make my best believes. </i>
I would ask myself whether these colorful designs are the ashes and resides of my burnt heart and soul. </i>
Or it is maybe a sudden bright flash to provide creativity. </i>
This is the unanswered question summarizing my life. </i>
I used chiaroscuro, designs and colors to understand the concept of painting. </i>
But painting includes a great broad concept that you should be not only a painter but also a design to grasp this deep concept. </i>
You should be the painting in nature.</i>
I wrote two books about the painting – the poem by Ahmad Shamloo (Iranian poet) is being written in one of them.
One of the books is “The Sympathetic Eye”.
The other is “The Story of Man and His Stability – About Mrs. Iran Darroudi”, written by Mr. Mahdi Mozafari Saveji.
It is in 900 pages including 33 paintings.
Another book of mine is “In the Distance of Two Points”. You should congratulate me!
I wrote a book about Mr. Ahmad Shamloo.
In another of my books, I’ve compared Shamloo with Mr. Mahdi Akhavan Sales (Iranian poet).
That book includes some interviews; I was one of the interviewees.
I had to look up different reference books because they are both of the great Iranian poets.
Mr. Saveji, the author, believed that my speeches about those two were in nationalist way.
But, I lost my rag because I considered a poem by Akhavan Sales named “the Susa” – it is not so nationalistic.
There is nothing special beyond our nationality.
We have a great history of our nationality. We shouldn’t forget our great history and our origin.
One of her paintings named “The Land of Kindness” </i>
Iran Darroudi’s Speeches at the International Book Fair </i>
How can I be thankful to you all? </i>
You are all together here to visit an author who doesn’t know herself as an author. </i>
I am an average Iranian who has average skill but she if full of love toward this land. </i>
My ever-lasting love to Iran would last even after my death because whatever I have, is from my land. </i>
The greatest valuable is the faith. </i>
This faith taught me how to know, recognize and love the values. </i>
By reading the book of “In the distance of Two Points” you would know the values I love. </i>
I really respect my land and my ancestors. </i>
I am proud of being an Iranian.</i>
I am proud of birthplace “Khorasan”, the birthplace of Ferdowsi (great Iranian poet). </i>
I am proud of being a successful woman. My success is because you love me. </i>
I owe this success to you all. </i>
I ask you to love Iran and Iranian artists, though they have some weak points. </i>
I am also full of weak points but I have a strong point that is my faith. </i>
I am an average citizen of Iran who lived 60 years in France. </i>
Do not forget that I am an Iranian and I wish to die here in Iran. </i>
We are the root of human being civilization. </i>
One of her paintings named “The Pulse of History” </i>
Painting is the main part of my existence.
After God, Iran is another important part of my existence.
I do love Iran, the Iranian and its history.
But I do love the life, first.
I am happy to have such a profession because when I paint, I can forget the pain.
God has provided me the best friends. It is a prosperity to know a person like you.
I appreciate you to pick up me in the morning to the Abbas Abad Museum.
It is surprising! I may lose my memory but I never forget the kindness on behalf of others.
These matters would enrich my life. I appreciate the humanity and the values.
I know the values and I wish all humans, around the world, could have such a thought worldview as me.
I have different worlds for myself – they help me to stand in a room like this and tolerate the differences.
My imaginary world is so glorious that no one can imagine.
My real world is a world of jealousy, interference, enmity, and slaughter.
When I live in my real world, I am in a bad mood.
At the last time I was in Paris, I sold my house to provide the amount of money needed to build my museum.
I also have sold my patrimony to build Iran Darroudi’s Foundation.
It is for 6 years ago when I sold my house in Paris.
Once a year I have to go to France to visit my doctor for cancer treatment – it is because of the side effects of cancer.
Because of many electric shocks to treat the cancer, some vessels in my leg were burnt;
that’s why I cannot walk. My leg is not broken.
The vessels are dried. Cancer made many bad side effects.
It was a successful operation to remove cancer glands – that was a miracle of my life.
It was like encountering the death!
Doctors were surprised and they couldn’t believe that the glands were removed successfully.
After the surgery, I was invited to the Yale University to have some speeches and lectures.
The doctor wanted to tell me some bad news but I didn’t want to hear that.
I asked him whether he had removed the cancer glands or not. He said yes.
I said that it made no difference what may happened next.
He told me that there were two kinds of cancer glands!
I told him that I didn’t believe that I had cancer. It was up to you whether you have removed it or not.
I don’t want to hear any other bad news. Instead, I had a bad news for the doctor!
I told him that I had to be present at the university in 15 days after!
I wished to go, whether the doctor let me or not!
I prepared myself to go for the lecture even on wheelchair!
It was a bad news for the doctor. They said that it was necessary to have electric shock to complete the treatment.
I didn’t believe anymore that I had cancer. I wished them let me go.
I swear that I could have 11 lectures at the cities around America and held 11 exhibitions. Can you believe it?!
lecture on “The Role of Woman in Art History of Iran” A television Show named “Shokaran” </i>
I have no time to be alone, at any time.
I am always doing something: Painting, writing, visiting a friend.
I wish to be alone for a moment.
If a friend calls me to visit, I may ask him/her for another time.
I don’t know what loneliness is. Instead, I know “the anxiety” well!
I suffer from severe anxiety.
I wish that God helps me to have more belief and faith to Him.
Faith is the most important material by which you can make a miracle.
I am weak because of diseases and I am ready to die!
But I could survive and stay alive because I am strong enough against death – I appreciate myself!
The operation room is a normal room for me! I can see Israel Angel everywhere.
I talk to him: “Look! There are many persons who want to visit me. Go away! It is not the right time.”
It is strange that I can see Him.
Once, one of my friends, Mr. Hamid Naeeni told me: “you are cheating Israel Angel. You give Him jam tomorrow!”
It is like a joke that I was at the operation room for 19 times!
And now, I sit here in front of you telling about the beauties and the values in life.
I really ask God to let me live just for 3 years more because I wish to hang my paintings on the walls of my museum by myself.
I wish God gives me more money for my museum!
– Don’t worry! We will open your museum all together.
– This is my last wish. Some years ago, I asked God to keep me alive to start the building project but now,
I ask him to keep me alive for hanging my paintings and decorating my museum by myself. I deserve it! I deserve it!
The Location to Build the Museum of Iran Darroudi’s Works, the Contemporary Painter </i>
– What do you afraid of?
– I afraid of the cruelty and villainy among the human being.
I feel fear even when I am home.
I cannot imagine whether a man can cut another man’s head in front of the camera?!
I think it is the complete decline of the human being.
On the other side, they broadcast these furious actions via media.
It is their total cruelty and they do it just because the difference in believes!
Even an animal doesn’t do such an action.
– How could you have such an obstinate character?
– It is because my relatives despised me when I was a child.
Sometimes, I become surprised about the self-confidence I have!
Once, I told the audiences in a lecture that “I am the mother of Iran nation!”
suddenly, I understood what an interesting word I said!
Next, I saw my sentence as the newspaper headlines.
Soon after, I got an e-mail form a person in Australia including that “you are not the mother of Iran nation but the mother of the human being!”
I don’t know how that person could hear that lecture and even how s/he could find my e-mail.
So, I had said a right sentence at that lecture.
Mr. Anvar, I don’t prepare these sentences to say… this is also true about the way I paint.
– What is your main challenge in these days?
– I wish to open the museum in a high quality existed around the world.
– Have you ever despaired?
– I try to discover the main point.
I believe that there are some matters at the back of my despair feeling.
In fact, I encounter the false despair.
But I never get disappointed from God’s blessing, even at the bad moments of life.
I believe that God has proved me himself… so there is no reason to become disappointed’ therefore, I try to discover the reason.
“Love the Great, not only wound but a balm”, Documentary by Mr. Keyvan Ali-Mohammadi and Mr. Omid Bonakdar</i>
– What is your suggestion for the young who wish to become a painter?
– I suggest them to love themselves, not to listen to others’ speeches, ignore the judgments,
do whatever your heart tells you, not to seek fame,
not to wish to earn much money by painting, and not to consider painting as a mean to reach something.
I consider the painting as a human who has feeling.
Otherwise, you cannot reach the nature of creativity.
Try to enjoy your creativity, even if it is not much.
“Love the Great, not only wound but a balm”, Documentary by Mr. Keyvan Ali-Mohammadi and Mr. Omid Bonakdar</i>
I bet that you cannot find a person like me who loves the life so much, knows the value of its seconds and be thankful to the life.
I know myself as one of the luckiest persons around the world because I had a nice profession and an active life.
Many surprising opportunities occurred for me accidentally e.g. visiting great painters and prominent figures (Salvador Dali, David Rockefeller);
I could learn many new things form them. I have always been trying to learn during whole my life.
I know there are still many new things I have to learn.
I know the value of the life because it gave me the common sense.
I love to learn others whatever I know. All these are because I love my life.
You should love yourself, first. I love the soul of the humans, without knowing who they are.
If you try to know others, you may try to consider some points.
I wished the humans would love each other via their souls… it would be a nice life then!
The human needs to love and to be loved.
Isn’t it better to love others just because of their souls?
It is better not to consider the gender – everything should be ultra-gender.
There should be no desire and no return, I mean an unconditional love.
I am completely satisfied with the life I passed.
After the surgery to remove the cancer glands, I had to visit many doctors in some hospitals.
But, I have no complaint.
I had a profession I love. I had good friends I love. I live in a house I love.
I had a very nice husband who was a modest man and respected me so much.
He supported me in any situation. I love whatever I have around here.
– Imagine Mrs. Iran Darroudi is here. What would you like to tell her?
– I would ask her whether she afraid from death or not.
– You afraid for death?
– No, it would come on time. The Death is of the most glorious part of any life.
In case of no death, the humans would suffer from the misery.
Part 05
Mrs. Iran Darroudi. Part Five
About Art
Being a painter requires a special feature;
it is easier for men to be a painter because they are more experiences to encounter the difficulties during their life.
All women cannot have such a character because, in special situations, they may leave when they lose –
that’s why the number of female painters are less than male painters in recent years.
There is no famous female painter during the human being history.
Being a painter requires a strong character
who be able to encounter the loses, believe severely to him/her thoughts, and value his/her words more than him/herself.
Painting requires entirety i.e. you cannot share it with your child or your spouse cannot impose you his/her dominance.
We can see these kinds of problems among amateur painters, whether male or female.
“Love the Great, not only wound but a balm”, Documentary by Mr. Keyvan Ali-Mohammadi and Mr. Omid Bonakdar
– Do you consider the social role for the painting or the artist?
– Yes. A feckless person cannot become a painter.
A painter should be respectful toward his/her society because s/he is fed by the society.
This is the society who resides him/her and give him/her respect.
It is like a ping pong – the painter should respect the society. Therefore, s/he can be considered as a social role.
Do you remember what did Mr. Asghar Farhadi (Iranian director, Oscar Winner) do against Donald Trump?
Mr. Farhadi was representative of Iran in Oscar Festival.
My regards toward Farhadi was published in Shargh Press. I am satisfied with myself that I could congratulate Mr. Farhadi.
As you know, Mr. Farhadi became the Oscar Winner but the Iranian were banned to enter America.
So, Mrs. Anooshe Ansari (the first Iranian astronaut) attended at the Festival to get the Oscar on behalf of Mr. Farhadi.
Mr. Trump knows nothing and he wouldn’t wish to know about history.
He just knows about Mc Donald! He even doesn’t know about the Internet!
If he could surf the Internet, he would know about the beginning of human civilization and the Charter of Human Rights by Cyrus the Great.
You may be surprised that how an artist can interfere into these social matters.
– Which work you wished to paint?
– “Christ of St. john of the Cross” painted by Salvador Dali.
He stands himself higher than the Christ who had been crossed;
Dali has imagined himself as God to paint that painting.
I deeply wished to paint even a small part of his painting.
Once I saw that painting at the Museum, I was surprised about the black color he had used –
the natural black color is shining but the black color he had used, wasn’t shining at all.
I tried to touch his painting but the guard at the museum took me out of the museum, not to touch the painting again.
Dali is a contemporary artist. I remember one of his speeches:
“a valuable work can be a piece of art even without any special reason – just because it is effective”.
We watch everything to understand and enjoy.
It is you who choose what to see.
The present generation couldn’t understand the painting as it should be,
but the next generation will understand it little by little.
Painting in future will be based on computer and in digital form along with some innovations.
As you know, Andrew Warhol is famous (American artist, film director, and producer) many people pay $500 million or #1 million for him.
Remember that painting of hamburger hanged in the middle of Times Square in New York –
I thought it was an advertisement for a sandwich shop.
I mean, the values are mixed – nothing is in its right place.
I have recorded the speeches of André Malraux – he said that the modern art is going to lapse.
But we do not need to worry about that because the human being is creative and s/he can surprise others with the new thing found.
I really appreciate the recent art name “decoration”.
People in fifty years later, will appreciate this art in Iran, though it may consider odd today.
I saw the art of decoration used in a film produced in India.
The definition of creativity has changed.
Some persons may become depressed and draw some lines to present in an exhibition – they consider themselves as the painter!
I don’t mind whatever you think about me because of my viewpoint about the present art.
In recent years, the form of art has changed into business.
The money is more important than the art itself, like the stock exchange.
But there is still creativity to present.
The main problem is that the values are gone and people do not believe in anything anymore, not only in art but also in everything.
It is really awful. The outcome is that people do not try think deeply.
Let’s compare the photo of my oil painting series with the photo of an actor – the former with 100 likes and the latter with 40 thousand likes!
The values are not considered anymore.
I am of the last active persons of my generation – we tried to find new things and respected to our works.
The works we see today are not painting; they are only handicraft!
There is a though and message beyond the painting.
In modern art, they deform the things deliberately.